(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[2015 Masters - Youyin Cao (w) vs Mark Lee (b)]PW[Youyin Cao]PB[Mark Lee]WR[3p]BR[7d]DT[2015-08-04]EV[2015 US Go Congress]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dennis Wheeler]C[USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to round 4 of the US Masters tournament at the 2015 Twin Cities Go Congress
USGO1 [-\]: the players have started their clocks
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;B[qd]
;W[dd]C[ofbusy [-\]: hm is mark lee hoping for 0.5win ?
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;B[pq]
;W[oc]C[flobby [-\]: can we see the link to the matrix thing again
ofbusy [-\]: well tenuki seems the spirit
USGO1 [-\]: watch live video stream coverage on the official AGA Youtube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLdE3qzfBHk
USGO1 [-\]: video commentary later by Hajin Lee
hitaus [2k?\]: ofbusy, B R16 is clearly aiming for that
ofbusy [-\]: hm sorry but this approch seems a challenge form w
Mitty [1k\]: wow, w is a female pro
USGO1 [-\]: for pairings, results and game records, see the crosstabs on the USGO.org website: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/173
bitzi [-\]: what do you mean, there are many female pros
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;B[ld]
;W[po]C[mutlley: are there any whites in this USGO?
mutlley: or all asian?
ofbusy [-\]: which is the more fearsome yulin tong or this lady player ?
Mitty [1k\]: looks like the video stream is combined by 3 cameras
ofbusy [-\]: there is some fake mutlley around here..
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;B[qm]
;W[qq]
;B[mq]C[Mitty [1k\]: also, the video stream writes 3p, while this demo 4p..
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;W[pp]
;B[pr]
;W[ro]
;B[pi]
;W[qr]C[Reym [-\]: 3.5p
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;B[jq]C[hitaus [2k?\]: B's alive everywhere, W needs another gote
ofbusy [-\]: q11...
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;W[co]C[Annie [1k\]: what about q11?
Annie [1k\]: its a playable move
ofbusy [-\]: looks like nowhere land
gogen [3k\]: When can we see Haylee's commentaries?
Annie [1k\]: when the game gets going
Annie [1k\]: probably between 50-100 moves
gogen [3k\]: i see thx
ofbusy [-\]: i think q11 looks like a trick move  in fact
Annie [1k\]: its not..
hitaus [2k?\]: what's the aim of C5?
Annie [1k\]: the side
Mitty [1k\]: there is a big cup of tea?, and she drinks a few times
hitaus [2k?\]: D3 seems facing wrong direction, E4 leaves bottom open
flobby [-\]: didn't they say there will be an interview today? where/when is that?
pancake [3d\]: If black D3's, white will press and give black a very low position on the bottom. Black would not be happy with that.
Mitty [1k\]: I guess, since K3 is solid, C5 is good sense
ofbusy [-\]: approching c5 isnt urgent to me
Annie [1k\]: if white takes the corner in any way other than this move imo is when black will approach the other side
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;B[cq]C[flobby [-\]: wow w is a female pro
flobby [-\]: i just opened youtube stream and saw
hitaus [2k?\]: ofbusy, mark thinks differently
bitzi [-\]: there are many female pros ...
ofbusy [-\]: i see that ! ;)
Annie [1k\]: yeah
Mitty [1k\]: hope w makes a really hard game for b
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;W[ep]C[flobby [-\]: i hope w just wins
Annie [1k\]: Hitaus as white you have think about taking this corner because black is low at k3 do you think black will approach at the bottom?
hitaus [2k?\]: seems Mark has studied W and found out she dislikes her opponent being solid
Annie [1k\]: what?
hitaus [2k?\]: (btw. was it E3 dragged back to E4?)
Annie [1k\]: its a technique for placing stones down. 
Mitty [1k\]: a slip on the mouse
ofbusy [-\]: b seems solid in this fuseki
ofbusy [-\]: sry w
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;B[eq]C[Laon [8k\]: anyone notice stream is sometimes behind?
Annie [1k\]: theres sliding stones, slapping stones (creates the nice sound) and then theres both.
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;W[fp]C[Annie [1k\]: yes theres a delay
Annie [1k\]: whites giving black the bottomg
Annie [1k\]: seems like a big risk
ofbusy [-\]: these pro are so boring lol
Mitty [1k\]: w building power to fight in the center
hitaus [2k?\]: seems W does not mind M16 and somehow aims to use the central influence
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;B[bo]C[Annie [1k\]: black says otherwise
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;W[cn]
;B[bn]C[ofbusy [-\]: hm fight for sente ?
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;W[cm]C[flobby [-\]: i'm not liking w here
SideEffect [1k\]: Annie, Are you ok?
ofbusy [-\]: sideE you speak like she s in the mir station
rsun [4d\]: w is a very strong pro
SideEffect [1k\]: What is Mir
Mitty [1k\]: lets guess, will the cup falls down
SideEffect [1k\]: The new linux display server?
ofbusy [-\]: space thing
SideEffect [1k\]: oh
Gay [4d\]: has mark lost a game yet
flobby [-\]: yes w is strong, so she knows how to use that influence. But im weak and i don't know how to use it so i prefer b
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;B[cp]C[Mitty [1k\]: they both not lost yet
garlic: w is better
rsun [4d\]: w has sente
SideEffect [1k\]: I don't know how to use influence D: usually it ends up using me :(
rsun [4d\]: b is low
garlic: d4 100% sente
garlic: good pro
Annie [1k\]: Black doesnt mind being low.. I guess because of the top right
ofbusy [-\]: every w stone seems well placed....
gogen [3k\]: b gain some solid territory why it should be bad? 
rsun [4d\]: didn't say it's bad
Annie [1k\]: no one said it was
ofbusy [-\]: well its even
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;W[of]C[Annie [1k\]: considering it whites turn yeah
flobby [-\]: w shape looks kind of scary
gogen [3k\]: one said w is better 
garlic: i think... b lost
Annie [1k\]: doesnt mean its bad for b\\
flobby [-\]: i eat garlic
rsun [4d\]: raw garlic tastes great
ofbusy [-\]: was mark an insei or somethin ?
garlic: do you like garlic pizza?
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;B[qf]C[Mitty [1k\]: Mark is an agent
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;W[qc]C[ofbusy [-\]: hm us have lots of them
rsun [4d\]: b is playing like kitani minoru in this game
gogen [3k\]: he was sensei not insei and is actually
Mitty [1k\]: besides of s17, what moves b could try?
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;B[od]C[rsun [4d\]: here you go
garlic: look at b shape...
ofbusy [-\]: these pros look like well educated kids that can go berseker
Annie [1k\]: dat moyo
garlic: like in yuyu hakusho
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;W[pc]
;B[oe]C[flobby [-\]: i eat garlic anything
rsun [4d\]: it's as if both players want both moyo and territory
Annie [1k\]: if i recall Yusuke wasnt well educated and was a deliquent..
hitaus [2k?\]: I really like how B plays with M16, solid and shining, nothing getting in danger, only by choice later on
ofbusy [-\]: w wins shape contest
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;W[cf]C[gogen [3k\]: does mrs Cao drink beer?) 
Mitty [1k\]: seems w is confident in yose
hitaus [2k?\]: gogen, only cacao and curacao
ofbusy [-\]: hmm i dont know fan did drink smthg in european championship
garlic: f16?
Gay [4d\]: c9 for fun
Annie [1k\]: something in the top but not f16?
garlic: c9 is fun
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;B[en]C[garlic: ooo
SideEffect [1k\]: :O
ofbusy [-\]: hm this is spirited
garlic: kore wa....
flobby [-\]: this game looks like it will not be extremely peaceful
Laon [8k\]: this is where it begins
flobby [-\]: garlic tabetai
SideEffect [1k\]: This is where batman begins
gogen [3k\]: Do you see her glass of liquid at the table It seems to be beer))
Mitty [1k\]: peaceful game only happen when players strength difference is big
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;W[em]C[hitaus [2k?\]: gogen, it's cacao with curacao
Annie [1k\]: or its coke, rootbeer, pepsi... dark color soda?
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;B[fm]
;W[el]C[ofbusy [-\]: d5 ..
gogen [3k\]: oh, really? are you shure? 
Mitty [1k\]: coffee?
flobby [-\]: well i played games with 0 captures and 0 dead stones at the end with equal strength opponents mitty
hitaus [2k?\]: annie, none of those rhyme to a pun
garlic: powaa
Annie [1k\]: didnt know it needed to be
jlm [1k\]: f8 push looks correct here
Annie [1k\]: d4 ! for fun
RobertT [-\]: just preference wise, I would like to take black here
garlic: o6?
hitaus [2k?\]: G6 would be sente
ofbusy [-\]: w has to counterattack
gogen [3k\]: do you see the film drunk master Is it possible in go something like that?)
garlic: never
ofbusy [-\]: unfortunaltely b s move
jlm [1k\]: f8 works with the right side of the board. to try and cut e4 will result in a fight that might offset b's thickness on the right side, too
eleven21: b must be thinkg how to force w to play d5
ofbusy [-\]: being drunk is easy , master is something else ...
Annie [1k\]: you become disoriented drunk how would you keep your concentration?
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;B[fl]C[Haraka [3k\]: practice
gogen [3k\]: no concentration but intuition may do
ofbusy [-\]: reality is relative
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;W[fk]C[flobby [-\]: relativity is relative
ofbusy [-\]: sure thing bro
Annie [1k\]: but none the less you wont like it if reality hits you.
SideEffect [1k\]: If I made my rank - would I be cool too?! :o
Annie [1k\]: yeah
SideEffect [-\]: Am I cool yet? :D
jlm [1k\]: w seems to have the upper hand...play is focused on who gets the center right now. and b is too low on bottom right side
guest14: mark is the best
ofbusy [-\]: pro games start politely then ... 
Meepy [-\]: i think w is having a good opening too
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;B[do]C[Annie [1k\]: I dont think its polite
Haraka [3k\]: F4 is going to do something crazy
ofbusy [-\]: i m sorry but you take my place it must be a mistake - hm im sorry too - lets fight
jlm [1k\]: f4 is dead, but does have a lot of aji to contribute to this game
SideEffect [-\]: its dead?
Annie [1k\]: f6 d4 g6 h7 
jlm [1k\]: * deadish
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;W[ek]C[Mitty [1k\]: my F4 button is working nicely
SideEffect [-\]: Try Alt+F4 :o
eFond [5k\]: white looks lost in his direction of play imo
Laon [8k\]: her*
garlic: One is a butler one is a chief everything is relative.
Annie [1k\]: really white looks like she gained a lot
jlm [1k\]: w looks great to me. e9 and the c14 enclosure look super powerful
flobby [-\]: i hate w here
Annie [1k\]: i dont mind
SideEffect [-\]: Why do you hate W?
SideEffect [-\]: Is it because she is a girl?
SideEffect [-\]: That is sexist...
flobby [-\]: hate the color, not the person
SideEffect [-\]: oh
Annie [1k\]: he uses strong words
SideEffect [-\]: Why do you hate the color
SideEffect [-\]: What did white ever do to you
garlic: lol
gogen [3k\]: rasist
Annie [1k\]: both players left
SideEffect [-\]: ^
Meepy [-\]: escapers!
garlic: G9??
ofbusy [-\]: dont start it lots of trolling can be done only with the game
Annie [1k\]: alas mark is back
ofbusy [-\]: much more fun
Haraka [3k\]: O6?
rsun [4d\]: b cannot tenuki
Annie [1k\]: id prefer h7 
flobby [-\]: does h7 protect the cut
Annie [1k\]: scare white into running
ofbusy [-\]: g6 is my first instinct
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;B[fn]C[Annie [1k\]: doesnt need to
flobby [-\]: ya i thought g6
SideEffect [-\]: h7 doesnt seem to help anything
SideEffect [-\]: lol
garlic: woooooa
rsun [4d\]: k4 is power
Muffinman [3k\]: j4 ?
garlic: black is sai....
rsun [4d\]: j4 heavy
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;W[bm]C[garlic: hoinbou...shusaku!!!! EHH?!!?
ofbusy [-\]: lets say g6 was "close" :p
Annie [1k\]: c8 would have been a strong move :P
Annie [1k\]: k8 now!
SideEffect [-\]: :O
SideEffect [-\]: tengen
garlic: now O7
rsun [4d\]: k8 is vague
EdhelDil [4k\]: h17 
ofbusy [-\]: hm w is solid ...
Meepy [-\]: upper left now?
Mitty [1k\]: j16
Muffinman [3k\]: upper left seems most important
garlic: w thinks he is winning
garlic: ^^
Annie [1k\]: she
PATLEE [5k\]: h17
ofbusy [-\]: "she"
flobby [-\]: w wonders when she turned to a he
garlic: *punished*
Mitty [1k\]: oh no, MM is here too
ofbusy [-\]: w is passive agressive !!
SideEffect [-\]: She turned into a he when she decided to get that hair cut
garlic: ofc mm was playing tygem
garlic: all this time
EdhelDil [4k\]: Milan, what do you suggest here for black?
EdhelDil [4k\]: (please? ^^)
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;B[gk]C[Annie [1k\]: hane only move
garlic: annie is .....
garlic: 9p...
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;W[gj]C[rsun [4d\]: I like the 6-8d vacuum
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;B[hj]C[garlic: triple hane!
ofbusy [-\]: serious hane here !
flobby [-\]: rsun get to 7d to fill that vacuum
garlic: hanner ladder
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;W[hk]
;B[gl]C[ofbusy [-\]: omg not  j9 
Annie [1k\]: what about the 6d and the 8d
rsun [4d\]: g11 honte
garlic: what is w doing ? : o
rsun [4d\]: just leave some aji
ofbusy [-\]: not j9 noooo
Annie [1k\]: a big black void with a little lost white group :(
garlic: b is winning 4 shur
ofbusy [-\]: dont play it !
rsun [4d\]: if w g11 directly b may h9 and it's clean
flobby [-\]: well i said i didn't like w's shape a long time ago
grim [7k\]: cao looks really sleepy
rsun [4d\]: jetlag
ofbusy [-\]: j9 is death .
Annie [1k\]: 3-4 day jetlag?
Annie [1k\]: does it usually last that long?
rsun [4d\]: jetlag can last for 2 weeks
SideEffect [-\]: :O\]
Gay [4d\]: lagjet
Annie [1k\]: well then we need fast running jets :P
Annie [1k\]: cant have them lagging
sinoya: b prob gonna win
Mitty [1k\]: hehe, before move 50, last chance of betting
grim [7k\]: amateur is going to win vs 3p?
ofbusy [-\]: einstein say if you move fast time past slow or whatever ?
sinoya: yes
Federici [10k\]: relatively
Laon [8k\]: grim a amatuer beat a 9p so whats difference?
sinoya: b was a wonseng
flobby [-\]: its still early in the morning without jet lag
Annie [1k\]: grim marks rating is around 10 i believe he maybe a 7d but hes very strong
grim [7k\]: hmm ok
ofbusy [-\]: mark lee is like super strong
Annie [1k\]: not like
flobby [-\]: I like b's position but i'm going to guess w will win
Annie [1k\]: he is
Gay [4d\]: i think mark will win
SideEffect [-\]: (\\_/)
Mitty [1k\]: all my money on b
SideEffect [-\]: (o.o)
grim [7k\]: top looks less open for w than b bottom
SideEffect [-\]: nooo
rsun [4d\]: w left is territory, b bottom is moyo
SideEffect [-\]: D:
flobby [-\]: how many games are there total this tournament?
ofbusy [-\]: annie are you like a little bossy ?
Gay [4d\]: he dont make much mistakes ^^
satudua: B more solid 
flobby [-\]: thank you for your money mitty mitty
rsun [4d\]: b is thick
weiqidevil [-\]: black seems to have a huge lead
sinoya: he plays so fast, too
garlic: i think b is winning by 45 pts
rsun [4d\]: when in doubt consult se
flobby [-\]: b+73.5
jlm [1k\]: maybe w should try j4?
ofbusy [-\]: w is strong , but if you plunge into the variations ...
garlic: se still working? 
Annie [1k\]: ?
rsun [4d\]: se always works
Annie [1k\]: se is god of kgs
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;W[gi]C[Federici [10k\]: 'works'
Reym [-\]: se always win
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;B[ij]C[Annie [1k\]: he never loses
flobby [-\]: don't blame se when players aren't strong enough to carry it out
satudua: SE at 9p lvl right now
oneki [6k\]: isn't Mark like 18 years old?
rsun [4d\]: k4 power play
ofbusy [-\]: hm w didnt fight
Annie [1k\]: Yeah i think so
Reym [-\]: yes oneki
rsun [4d\]: w is preparing to fight
jlm [1k\]: time to punish b for being too low at bottom
Mitty [1k\]: is it the right time now for something around k5?
ofbusy [-\]: we didnt see w s teeth yet
SideEffect [-\]: why would you want to
satudua: i will play q9
Federici [10k\]: k5 ish sounds good to me
ofbusy [-\]: i think when w bites it could be baddd..
jlm [1k\]: i guess w will start w/ m4
Annie [1k\]: k5 too far in
rsun [4d\]: need to brush your teeth before showing them
tchitchi [2d\]: is there any stream?
SideEffect [-\]: W is a vampire?
Annie [1k\]: yes
Reym [-\]: true
Zalasha [1d\]: but if k5 then b m6 looks good
ofbusy [-\]: y sideE
SideEffect [-\]: :O
rsun [4d\]: k5 is slack, need to k4
SideEffect [-\]: Is that why I saw her sparking in the light?
Annie [1k\]: https://youtu.be/BLdE3qzfBHk is the live stream
SideEffect [-\]: sparkling*
jlm [1k\]: w may think she has time to k16 first, though
grim [7k\]: so when is haylee going to comment on the game?
Reym [-\]: q9 better than r9?
Reym [-\]: later
grim [7k\]: k16 looks really good
flobby [-\]: k16 looks a bit far
gogen [3k\]: now i  more like w somehow couse w's influence looks more solid and safe..
rsun [4d\]: k16 is bad move for both
flobby [-\]: easy for b to pincer
Haraka [3k\]: m5
jlm [1k\]: why bad rsun?
Annie [1k\]: I estimate commentary to start within 15-20 minutes
flobby [-\]: b+71.5 so w caught up 2 points
ofbusy [-\]: in french its called "chaines musicales" when the music stops the one who didnt find a chair is done
Mitty [1k\]: w is not influence.. its cash
Reym [-\]: chaises
Zalasha [1d\]: jlm it doesnt have good continuation play. and neither does it attack anything
flobby [-\]: chinese musicales
ofbusy [-\]: y reym
rsun [4d\]: k16 is begging tyson to punch you
Federici [10k\]: lol
sinoya: musical chairs
Mitty [1k\]: m5 ok or not? is it slack?
ofbusy [-\]: e17 is so big for w...
jlm [1k\]: you're probably right...but my thinking is that b doesn't have a naturally good play in the m6 area; so k16 is just big move you can play and save the invasion in k5 area for later.
grim [7k\]: and so the commentary has started
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;W[io]C[Federici [10k\]: aw yea
grim [7k\]: so is there any good move on the 16th line?
sinoya: optimistic
Reym [-\]: thks grim
grim [7k\]: like h16?
rsun [4d\]: this move marks the end of fuseki, and the beginning of middle game
ofbusy [-\]: hm w is moving
Zalasha [1d\]: b doesnt have good continuation play? joking? b plays n6 and its almost territory whole
flobby [-\]: sometimes hajin's accent sounds indian imo
SideEffect [-\]: its all the same
SideEffect [-\]: asian accent
SideEffect [-\]: :o
flobby [-\]: sometimes
Mitty [1k\]: b will come outside, arouund K6
rsun [4d\]: in that case w j3 easy sabaki
rsun [4d\]: living here is piece of cake for pro
Zalasha [1d\]: thats why w plays here, he is in hurry to reduce b moyo
Mitty [1k\]: but b H4 seems submissive to w's idea
rsun [4d\]: yes
rsun [4d\]: that's why moyo is so hard vs pro
Haraka [3k\]: L6 too loose?
sinoya: w needs another forcing move
sinoya: and k3 n3 q3 is rock solid
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;B[jn]C[SideEffect [-\]: :O
Mitty [1k\]: :O
Laon [8k\]: :O
SideEffect [-\]: Ò
Federici [10k\]: fight
SideEffect [-\]: :Ò
ogolony [-\]: :Ó
sinoya: entertainment begins
rsun [4d\]: playing from the outside is correct as it aims to make another wall for m10 area
liusasori [4d\]: :Ô
SideEffect [-\]: hackers
sinoya: w only has q4-5 to run to
ofbusy [-\]: hm. 
sinoya: no good prospects
rsun [4d\]: so for the next dozen moves we'll see how w lives elegantly and how b makes another layer of influence
Mitty [1k\]: w will try n4?
EdhelDil [4k\]: is j5 some kind of asking move?
ofbusy [-\]: by the way can us amateurs beat pro ?
Lice [4d\]: ye it asks "can you kill me or not?"
rsun [4d\]: yes, aguilar beat 2 9ps in world tournament
Federici [10k\]: whoa
ofbusy [-\]: hmm aguilar isnt like a legend ? 90 y old ?
Mitty [1k\]: passing the pro exam != getting the victory for life
satudua: 25K will play L4
sinoya: J5 just seems ajikeshi
sinoya: way behind enemy lines
rsun [4d\]: a myoshu will occur within the next 20 moves
EdhelDil [4k\]: m5 now? to either link to right (and reduce middle) or link to j5?
Haraka [3k\]: could be more aji to reduce moyo... 
Federici [10k\]: it will look a lot better once f6 is dead
sinoya: w shouldn't try to run
Mitty [1k\]: we can see b6 is so important, in ensures c3 is safe
jlm [1k\]: L4 is not 25k move. has merits
ofbusy [-\]: tenuki!!
sinoya: J8 area only weakness if you could even call it that
Mitty [1k\]: is j12 ok?
jlm [1k\]: L4 could be used to either live w/ j3 or ultimately attack n3 group
ofbusy [-\]: e17 once then come back
sinoya: not enough by far
Zalasha [1d\]: k2?
sinoya: w needs a tremendously good move here
jlm [1k\]: that is something we can all agree on sinoya
EdhelDil [4k\]: l6 looks very good so far
EdhelDil [4k\]: k6 i mean
AppleWatch: L4 maybe
ofbusy [-\]: w really has a girl thinking
rsun [4d\]: l4 k4
AppleWatch: D4 is sente?
ofbusy [-\]: d4 is trouble
AppleWatch: w d4, how would b respond?
Mitty [1k\]: g5 is the tesuji here, :-)
ofbusy [-\]: ?
rey2015 [6k\]: w is burned
Mitty [1k\]: connects and die together
jlm [1k\]: L4 definitely draws K4, but L3 response gives white at least something for her troubles 
jlm [1k\]: i mean L5
ofbusy [-\]: go pro think like chess pro, just a few move (seq) and then 
jlm [1k\]: i was wondering if w will try k4
indianayk [?\]: exchange of d4/d3 makes a part of w's stones heavy at this point
AppleWatch: l4, k4, k5, l5, j6, k7,j7, k8,j8 now with cutting earlier at d4, b center group was split too
sinoya: no choice but to start a massive fight
ofbusy [-\]: e17 first imo
rsun [4d\]: w is thinking, what would sakata eio do now
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;W[hm]C[Federici [10k\]: yea!
SideEffect [-\]: :O
ofbusy [-\]: ok massive fight now
sinoya: was right about the area :D
jlm [1k\]: h7 sets up L4 by the way with ladder
Zalasha [1d\]: k8 incoming?
sinoya: b will probably defuse it
rsun [4d\]: difficult situation for b
sinoya: J9 or something, then connect
sinoya: actually
sinoya: k8 better
satudua: k8
rsun [4d\]: k8 is too slack
Zalasha [1d\]: hmm yeah gives lots of options for w
sinoya: b's only uncomfortable around d4 is he gets cut off
Zalasha [1d\]: could be a problem
Mitty [1k\]: h6..
Genghis [2k\]: h4?
ofbusy [-\]: hm i dont pretend to read so let s see
LordRahl [1d\]: hi guys
jlm [1k\]: i think b keeps it simple here and takes the L4 option of the table with a move like k5 
Mitty [1k\]: oh wait, its ko!
LordRahl [1d\]: anyone know if s there a commentary on this game
rsun [4d\]: yes, we're all part of it
sinoya: k5 helps w
jlm [1k\]: and it is amazing, btw
LordRahl [1d\]: ok, no broadcast like yesterday? :(
jlm [1k\]: brillant comment after brillant comment
ofbusy [-\]: yes yesterdays commentary was cool
LordRahl [1d\]: although, I must say, the metacomments are lacking
jlm [1k\]: ;)
USGO1 [-\]: Hajin Lee 3p is giving live video commentary right now on the new official AGA Youtube channel: Mitty [1k\]: wow, w is a female pro
ofbusy [-\]: usgo1 what is this sentence ?;p
USGO1 [-\]: oops... sorry... copy paste error
USGO1 [-\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLdE3qzfBHk
LordRahl [1d\]: thanks, USGO1!
]
;B[jo]C[Federici [10k\]: d4?
sinoya: j8?
USGO1 [-\]: check for the latest pairings, results and game records on the usgg website: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/173
bitzi [-\]: how strong is an aga 4d compared to kgs?
Jodo [2d\]: pmuch kill or lose
critter [1k\]: both stronger than 1k
jlm [1k\]: Hajin Lee was saying b k8 was good (instead of k5), but w probably would d4 cut right away
ofbusy [-\]: haylee is good, but this chinese pro is playin for her life 
ofbusy [-\]: basically reading is making something that doesnt seem to work, work
Annie [1k\]: if it doesnt seem to work then you arent reading
Annie [1k\]: you should know
Annie [1k\]: not find out
OoohShiny [10k\]: i think he meant "reading well ahead makes the unlikely possible"
ofbusy [-\]: yeah if we just play intuition like "this works ok" we should be 2 levels strongers at least
sinoya: if you have to read just 10 moves ahead at a branching factor of a mere 2, you already have to consider 2^10=1024 options...
ofbusy [-\]: its all about verifieing
jlm [1k\]: lee seems to think j4 is going to be next
Annie [1k\]: she is pro
ofbusy [-\]: sinoya its a tree with lots of dead branches
sinoya: yup
sinoya: finding 1 that works will be difficult :)
ofbusy [-\]: honestly w seems in deeeep trouble
Annie [1k\]: lee doesnt think so\\
sinoya: speaking for w
ofbusy [-\]: in the video ?
jlm [1k\]: actually, watching hajin lee, it seems like b is the one in trouble
Annie [1k\]: lol
Annie [1k\]: no b is fine
Annie [1k\]: needs to be careful though
sinoya: w spent like 10-20 minutes on the last 2 moves
ofbusy [-\]: well mark lee and halee lee which one ?
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;W[dp]C[rsun [4d\]: halee lee, I like that name
Gay [4d\]: knew that cut will come 8)
ofbusy [-\]: its spelled hajin today ... asians are so misterious ;)
sinoya: we all did :o)
sinoya: eventually, anyway
jlm [1k\]: hajin thought j4 should come before d4 cut, though. 
lxlx [-\]: jlm, that is not true
ofbusy [-\]: when i saw fan hui play i thought it was a personnality thing but chinese players are so methodical 
jlm [1k\]: right...she just decided otherwise. sorry
ofbusy [-\]: like "i read this.. i read that ... ok
ofbusy [-\]: i can litterally feel it throught the board ahah
sinoya: figuratively
Annie [1k\]: sure..
ofbusy [-\]: sinoya you re confusing me 
peakoil [1d\]: where for b to play?
jlm [1k\]: d3 seems required
sinoya: sinnce LL corner lives and that worm is worth a lot of points
peakoil [1d\]: d3 h8 right?
Federici [10k\]: seems like it
sinoya: 30-40 pts, can't just d3
jlm [1k\]: no...appears that h8 lets b play g5
tim5407 [5k\]: 1hr per move?
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;B[hp]C[ofbusy [-\]: hmmmmmmmmmm
SideEffect [-\]: :O
ofbusy [-\]: mm
ofbusy [-\]: m
ofbusy [-\]: res
]
;W[dq]C[sinoya: G5, gg
sinoya: :P
]
;B[cr]C[Federici [10k\]: g5?
sinoya: w can't just make life there
MilanMilan [9d\]: not hard
Swiss [1k?\]: mark lee is hitgirl7 ?
sinoya: hm
sinoya: okay..
MilanMilan [9d\]: h3 j4 d2 a2 j2 
sinoya: J4 necessary then?
ofbusy [-\]: as french reality show star nabilla would say "allo you re 7d you ve got no connection
sinoya: it seems b's more aggressive than that
critter [1k\]: but it is the meta-meta comments that you really wnat
Swiss [1k?\]: is black kingsman or hitgirl7 ? 
negesog [7k\]: Mark made Hugh game yesterday 
ofbusy [-\]: milan does your seq even makes sense ?
ofbusy [-\]: a2 j2 ....
bitzi [-\]: ofbusy it does
Zalasha [1d\]: too weak to read ready sequence?
ofbusy [-\]: yes, 
Zalasha [1d\]: too bad
sinoya: How are they doing on time?
]
;W[hq]C[flobby [-\]: op milan's sequence
SideEffect [-\]: :O
WiteDragon [3k\]: Doesn't j3 now work for b? 
Federici [10k\]: yup
turtleboy [7k?\]: Why does it take so long to show the next move ?
flobby [-\]: because they didn't play it yet?
WiteDragon [3k\]: (I know it won't cause Milan said so but don't see why) 
USGO1 [-\]: the game started a little less than 2 hours ago... I can't see white's clock, but black has 35 mins main time left
ofbusy [-\]: lets assume milan sayin w lives gote -but maybe b can kill sente ! 
turtleboy [7k?\]: Oh it's live and ongoing. Cool.
]
;B[iq]C[indianayk [?\]: w seems to follow milanmilan's 
WiteDragon [3k\]: Ooh :) 
WiteDragon [3k\]: But not b
Zalasha [1d\]: well b doesnt want w to live easily ofc
indianayk [?\]: so far, yes
flobby [-\]: haylee's commentary shows b j4 too
flobby [-\]: wonder why
tonyho [1d\]: b is milanmilan?
elohimmeth [3d\]: to kill ?
negesog [7k\]: I feel it's dead
SideEffect [-\]: :(
]
;W[gq]C[indianayk [?\]: hajin lee, haylee
ofbusy [-\]: e2 
indianayk [?\]: not hay lee
elohimmeth [3d\]: hajime lee
negesog [7k\]: E2??? 
WiteDragon [3k\]: Because b now needs t secure f group
ofbusy [-\]: y i don t see how w makes it after e2...
negesog [7k\]: Oh yes
flobby [-\]: e2 h8?
elohimmeth [3d\]: +
negesog [7k\]: Soh5
]
;B[dr]C[SideEffect [-\]: :O
negesog [7k\]: H8 passif
flobby [-\]: passif?
]
;W[er]
;B[go]C[WiteDragon [3k\]: There, so w can live 
flobby [-\]: so w lives
ofbusy [-\]: peace bro ...
]
;W[dn]C[Federici [10k\]: but loses the prize :'(
]
;B[hh]C[negesog [7k\]: Lives in gote
Zalasha [1d\]: moyo grows
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;W[hi]
;B[ii]
;W[ih]C[flos [1k\]: easy life, easy win
ofbusy [-\]: hm teeth again
]
;B[hg]C[Zalasha [1d\]: heh right...i'd take b here still
]
;W[jh]C[Saeki [-\]: is W a pro from china?
ofbusy [-\]: b seems to submit to female powaa
rsun [4d\]: yes
jlm [1k\]: b sente at g5 was very big
]
;B[ik]
;W[jf]
;B[he]C[negesog [7k\]: H13  is not easy  to use
USGO1 [-\]: Mark clacks that one down hard
]
;W[jd]C[sinoya: looks like i was right :D
]
;B[dg]C[negesog [7k\]: No friends
]
;W[fg]C[negesog [7k\]: D13!!! 
negesog [7k\]: I wou
]
;B[df]C[Zalasha [1d\]: b can ditch h13 group if needed
]
;W[fe]C[sinoya: i doubt b would want to do that
Zalasha [1d\]: well its for w to decide here
Zalasha [1d\]: not b
negesog [7k\]: Mark new that h13 would bekild 
]
;B[fh]C[negesog [7k\]: He obligé w to kill h 13
garlic: who is winning?
Zalasha [1d\]: b
SideEffect [-\]: only jesus knows
SideEffect [-\]: I guess Zalasha is jesus
SideEffect [-\]: :O
Saeki [-\]: jesus is 9p
SideEffect [-\]: No
SideEffect [-\]: JEsus is 12[
sinoya: b isn't showing any signs of giving up H13, don't know why you'd think so
negesog [7k\]: Jésus is a go player? 
SideEffect [-\]: 12p*
]
;W[ei]C[rsun [4d\]: but dosaku is 13p
SideEffect [-\]: :o
clydesdale [3k\]: jesus wouldnt resist
Herod [-\]: No more of that please
SideEffect [-\]: No more of what
Annie [1k\]: he was
Herod [-\]: Your nonsense, Side
Zalasha [1d\]: no more children story characters please
Annie [1k\]: that may not be true of modern times
SideEffect [-\]: Did I do soemthing wrong? D:
negesog [7k\]: Herod you have problems with jesus? 
]
;B[ed]C[OoohShiny [10k\]: no religion plz
Zalasha [1d\]: religion/politics probhited
Mesrine [4k\]: boot all the BSers
USGO1 [-\]: lets focus on the game please
Reckless1 [3d\]: poor w 
clydesdale [3k\]: b looking good here for sabaki
SideEffect [-\]: Wow this place is no fun lol
Saeki [-\]: poor w :(
negesog [7k\]: Lucifer is in the boot 
bERt0r [2k?\]: bless the spaghetti monster
Reckless1 [3d\]: w's corner in danger
alex666 [4k\]: Video Online?
negesog [7k\]: And mark is a genius 
negesog [7k\]: 15 years old 
Saeki [-\]: here alex : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLdE3qzfBHk&feature=youtu.be
negesog [7k\]: 17
Zalasha [1d\]: isnt it a bit easier to see now that b leads
alex666 [4k\]: thx
]
;W[de]
;B[ee]
;W[ef]C[Reckless1 [3d\]: is Mark really 15 ?
]
;B[fd]C[negesog [7k\]: Maybe h13 will live
sinoya: see above
sinoya: they're important stones, why would he ditch them
USGO1 [-\]: White has 19 minutes remaining, Black has 25 minutes
peakoil [1d\]: Haijin says g12 only move
Zalasha [1d\]: that wasnt the point, w had no choise. if she wants to kill h12 then she loses the whole corner
Zalasha [1d\]: thats why b leads
Saeki [-\]: why b doesnt try to become an aga pro?
rsun [4d\]: I think you need to be US citizen
clydesdale [3k\]: text is overrunning my box
negesog [7k\]: No he is 17
negesog [7k\]: No he is 17
sinoya: you still assume white could decide whether to kill
jlm [1k\]: g12 then d17....should be good end game
dnnhg: f14
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;W[cg]C[Zalasha [1d\]: of course theres always a choise. i knew of course that killing h12 would be bad idea
mutlley: are there any white ppl in the top tier group of USGO?
sinoya: you only have the choice if there's the possibility
Zalasha [1d\]: ok whatever
redreoicy [3d\]: not us citizen but north american citizen
jlm [1k\]: c13 looked bad to hajin because after e12 g12, the c12 move is sente
Kour [?\]: How would roln fare in usgo?
gogen [3k\]: Haylee said b is in trouble
KwonYuri [1d\]: is there a stream?
SideEffect [-\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLdE3qzfBHk
]
;B[dc]C[gogen [3k\]: yes now is a break
KwonYuri [1d\]: thank you
]
;W[cc]C[Zalasha [1d\]: w played this well
Ten [?\]: N3 must be like the biggest joseki fad of all time
]
;B[eh]C[Zalasha [1d\]: whats a fad?
clydesdale [3k\]: crazw
clydesdale [3k\]: craze*
Ten [?\]: Something that's really popular for a relatively short while and then the interest abruptly dies out
Ten [?\]: Like tamagotchi
Zalasha [1d\]: ah ok
Zalasha [1d\]: thanks
kmr [1d\]: "star of one season"
Zalasha [1d\]: it doesnt feel like short term popularity to me
Ten [?\]: Five-ten years is pretty short compared to the time go has been played
Zalasha [1d\]: yeah but meant that its kinda innovative move
rsun [4d\]: where did they post the questions?
]
;W[gd]C[peakoil [1d\]: g16!
sinoya: rapyuta was playing this all the time, yeaaaars ago
flobby [-\]: ten = tien?
ofbusy [-\]: its written in the video rsun
]
;B[gc]
;W[gh]C[sinoya: ten(batsu) = heavenly punishment
rsun [4d\]: the last question I see is "where is Nick Sibicky? "
Saeki [-\]: hahha
Zalasha [1d\]: oh is b ok?
ofbusy [-\]: sacrifice, no ?
indianayk [?\]: c12?
Zalasha [1d\]: this looks nice for w
Ten [?\]: If the move didn't look innovative, it wouldn't become a fad in the first place
Chmol [3d\]: c12 g13 c15 c16 b15, but then b is in trouble at top
peakoil [1d\]: Hajin Lee must be smart
SideEffect [-\]: :O
Zalasha [1d\]: why do you think it becomes unpopular
rsun [4d\]: oh now I see the link
rsun [4d\]: thx ofbusy
]
;B[cd]
;W[ce]
;B[gg]
;W[dh]
;B[ge]C[flobby [-\]: fast moves
alex666 [4k\]:  Hajin Lee Already has an experience.))
Chmol [3d\]: left is huge for w
Ten [?\]: Well yeah, I can't actually know that, it's just a feeling
]
;W[ff]C[Ten [?\]: Personally I dislike n3 because it gives white a great many ways to respond depending on how the game looks like
Zalasha [1d\]: i dont like the move either but it does work well
Ten [?\]: In the very early game, even white tenuki can be annoying for black, since n3 doesn't actually put a lot of pressure on white
rsun [4d\]: but w tenuki b can r5?
Zalasha [1d\]: yeah true
]
;B[ic]C[KwonYuri [1d\]: this streaming is pretty cool btw
Ten [?\]: R5 becomes a kind of joseki sequence, with n3 having a slightly awkward position
]
;W[jc]C[rsun [4d\]: ok
Ten [?\]: Locally black'd play r2 next
Ten [?\]: White r4 could get under pressure, but on the other hand, with r2 all the black stones are pretty low
Chmol [3d\]: top result looks very bad for b
]
;B[nc]C[rsun [4d\]: my guess is people are just exploring n3 nowadays, and after they're done they won't play it anymore ;)
Ten [?\]: I get the feeling pros are almost finished exploring it
flobby [-\]: ten are you going to become a pro in japan?
indianayk [?\]: has b given away too much and needs to kill?
Ten [?\]: I'll try, anyway
]
;W[mc]C[USGO1 [-\]: white's clock has given the 10 min warning
]
;B[nb]C[flobby [-\]: so w used more time than b?
]
;W[nd]C[rsun [4d\]: looks like some holy smoke action is going on
flobby [-\]: smoking is bad mmmmkay
gogen [3k\]: what about b's clock?
Zalasha [1d\]: b could still win with time advantage
rsun [4d\]: agreed, but not if it's holy
garlic: did b won?
OoohShiny [10k\]: what would white play when black plays D11?
rsun [4d\]: just e13
OoohShiny [10k\]: what if black plays F10 first and then D11?
]
;B[me]C[OoohShiny [10k\]: ah
OoohShiny [10k\]: nvmd
OoohShiny [10k\]: xD
wuhu [-\]: lol
AndEdhel [4k\]: ^^
Federici [10k\]: if b gets 2 moves in a row then things look grim for w
OoohShiny [10k\]: i am ddk, i can be as bad as i want to be òo
rsun [4d\]: pros do autoatari as well
rsun [4d\]: b goes all in to kill k14 group
KwonYuri [1d\]: less than ddks tho
Weishenme [4d\]: beautiful suji
misterious [8d\]: I bet w did not expect this move
Zalasha [1d\]: yeah this move was good
Zalasha [1d\]: didnt think of it at all
flobby [-\]: you know you are weak when you don't realize why everyone is so impressed with this move
rsun [4d\]: I bet b didn't see this move when he played o18
Weishenme [4d\]: suddenly K16 w stones feel so bad
Hobbes [1k\]: you mean it should be good because you didn't think it? ;-)
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;W[ib]
;B[kb]C[negesog [7k\]: But he think about all sequence 
negesog [7k\]: Mark have the sente 's secret 
gogen [3k\]: k16 wont die i guess and b is going to lose
negesog [7k\]: No
awesome [3k\]: most likely
Zalasha [1d\]: corner dying would be pretty bad too
Chmol [3d\]: w has a problem with the corner now
KwonYuri [1d\]: this is pretty awsome if w has to make small life on both sides in gote
Chmol [3d\]: and if w forces b to kill g16, he'll have to defend top right corner
Chmol [3d\]: top left*
Saeki [-\]: seems like w in trouble
negesog [7k\]: He will have to 
Zalasha [1d\]: sure didnt expect a turnaround this fast
negesog [7k\]: In w territory 
Chmol [3d\]: n15 was a cool move
]
;W[jb]C[rsun [4d\]: b is forced to kill
]
;B[ec]C[AndEdhel [4k\]: n16?
Zalasha [1d\]: no then b n18
Zalasha [1d\]: err
hoyuka [1d\]: Mark Lee is no.1 in the us go?
AndEdhel [4k\]: ^^
OddKibitz [?\]: w seems to be in a lot of trouble
Federici [10k\]: does k18 have a survival plan?
rsun [4d\]: pro can live
]
;W[hb]C[Epithany [6k\]: B S16 would be painfor for W
Epithany [6k\]: painful*
Zalasha [1d\]: hmm o15 then maybe. w groups still separated
USGO1 [-\]: white is now down to 1 min main time
]
;B[hc]
;W[cb]C[flobby [-\]: how about b
ofbusy [-\]: ok what happened just came back
USGO1 [-\]: ten min warning for black now
rsun [4d\]: nice sente yose
Chmol [3d\]: g14 j14 lives, but maybe g18 better
negesog [7k\]: B live easy 
goldtree [3k\]: g14 e13 j14 works?
Gay [4d\]: b dont need answer top
goldtree [3k\]: OK
Chmol [3d\]: he doesn't, but then w f16 treatens kill or connection, no?
Gay [4d\]: something like m11?
Chmol [3d\]: f18*
AndEdhel [4k\]: f18 indeed
ofbusy [-\]: w is so bossy. o wouldnt want to be his husband
Federici [10k\]: m12, something
Gay [4d\]: hm
]
;B[gf]
;W[eg]C[rsun [4d\]: "his husband"?
Zalasha [1d\]: b wouldnt want to give up the kill right?
awesome [3k\]: these are modern times rsun
Gay [4d\]: j15
Gay [4d\]: 14*
ofbusy [-\]: hmm rsun french dont speak good english :)
AndEdhel [4k\]: iow, excuse our french ^^
Syxok [2d\]: top right totally dead?
]
;B[gb]C[Zalasha [1d\]: no
rsun [4d\]: top right unsettled
Chmol [3d\]: p18 is clearly sente, so it's surely not dead
lion974 [3k\]: s16 is great
dfhjdjvg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFlPYim-SUc
USGO1 [-\]: white is now in byo-yomi
Epithany [6k\]: How many stones in how long?
rsun [4d\]: do the clocks count in english?
]
;W[kc]C[negesog [7k\]: G18 b live,  and w can't make eye
USGO1 [-\]: they are set to talk in chinese, so sometimes I have to guess at what they are saying
]
;B[lc]
;W[lb]C[Mesrine [4k\]: what is time limit BYO?
HakuHaku [17k?\]: is there a livestream of this?
rsun [4d\]: they should count in korean for b, chinese for w, and english for referee
USGO1 [-\]: black resigns here
lion974 [3k\]: l19?
AndEdhel [4k\]: "schwarz, Go minutes restantes"
rsun [4d\]: smoke
hoyuka [1d\]: really?
awesome [3k\]: what? 
rsun [4d\]: I guess b became too upset with the clock language
Federici [10k\]: lol
hoyuka [1d\]: mark has lost?
lion974 [3k\]: why he resigned?
negesog [7k\]: I say stupid things 
AndEdhel [4k\]: he respects whites strenght in making right territory small
USGO1 [-\]: thanks for watching everyone
USGO1 [-\]: W+r
Zalasha [1d\]: probably because after b n18 w l19 w still has p18 as forcing move
AndEdhel [4k\]: thx usgo, and wonderfull videos as well
dfhjdjvg: the other game just finished minutes earlier and yilun yang also had to go suddenly. Maybe the bar opened 
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